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moja też, tymczasem jutro też tam będę
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[mdxmd]

consigliero ma racię jeśli chodzi o gleby .. GS z racji konstrukcji jest w tej kwestii raczej pancerny i nie ma znaczenia czy to LC czy stary...

w zasadzie to można go kłaść praktycznie bez strat, przy szlifie już jakieś będą ale tylko w gmolach ew końcówki kiery, przy większej rozeb..ce to już nie ma znaczenia jaki moto.

problem punktów mocowania gmoli w nowej AT jest jaki jest i tyle,

no ale to nie jest raczej zasadniczy powód nie kupienia motocykla bywa, że wsiądziesz i nic już nie ma znaczenia!!!! .... z gromną radością powitałbym także nową XTZ np 800-900, może suzuki się w końcu otrzepie się z V-strom'a i zrobi coś bardziej off.

[fassi]

Jesli guzik z DCT w nowej afryce sie blokuje, to wiedz ze cos sie dzieje

"CAUTION: DCT owners with sticky left switchgear PLEASE take note

Bike had its first service today (579 miles). I drew the dealer's attention to the sticking button on the left switchgear (the SET button that is used to control displayed fuel consumption / trip meters / ambient temp blah blah blah). Whilst outside showing them the problem, the DOWN select button packed up. I tell them I am not happy and fear the problem may spread to the paddle gear shift buttons (for non DCT riders the gear shifters are part of the same switch set)

Dealer services bike. Just an oil dump, oil filter and another filter for the DCT. Dealer tells me that the left hand switchgear is full of water. I ride in any weather, and on Wednesday that meant through foot deep floods. This IS an Africa Twin - that shouldn't have happened. Dealer logs a case with Honda, new left switchgear on it's way from Brussels to be fitted on Monday under warranty. Cool. I'll live without worrying about fuel consumption for a few days

Dealer test rides it after servicing it, I pay, gives me keys. Get out on the A420 for the 15 mile ride home - bike seems fine, although a bit more vibey than before, plus they gave me back the ludicrous amount of throttle free play. I ride it in a spirited fashion using a combination of it's full auto mode (DRIVE) and SPORTS 3, manually intervening to drop cogs using the paddle shifter upon corner entry. Bwaaarp Bwaaaarp Bwaaaaarp loving it

Ride into the town I live. It's busy. It's school kick out time and the roads have parked cars everywhere, people everywhere. Old boy coming towards me in a big Merc so I stop and wave him through. At this point I have the bike in Drive mode - it forces first gear on me when stopped, I have the option to select neutral but don't. In this situation the DCT acts like a twist and go effectively

Old boy passes me, I apply a light and constant throttle position - we pull away. (normally in this mode the bike short shifts up the box at about 1800rpm - it's ridiculously mild and at 35mph is usually already up into 5th). So we pull away as usual, and at about 5-10mph the revs suddenly go wild - HIGH - right up near the redline (but not banging off the limiter) - as if it found a false neutral and then of it's own accord dumps the clutch! Not it's usual beautifully smooth clutch work, it DUMPED the clutch. I was totally out of control, up on the back wheel in the middle of town, just missed a parked car - not knowing that the fuck was going on. Manage to get it under control and didn't run anybody over. Shit me right up. Badly

Once I'd calmed down and turned the bike off, I nursed it to a safer place and tried to replicate the issue. I felt bad. I thought it was my error. I can confirm that the same thing occurred a second time, only this time I was ready for it. It finds 'false' neutrals and is highly dangerous because I have no actual control of the clutch like on a manual bike!

If I had a pillion on the back we would have looped the thing in the middle of town - without question. Oh how I wish I had had my GoPro on

Don't want it anymore, don't want to ride it. Utterly dangerous. I have spoken to Honda UK - WHO WILL GET BACK TO ME IN THREE WORKING DAYS - despite the fact that this is currently Europe's best selling bike and almost 50% of buyers are opting for the the very cleer, very unpredictable got a mind of it's bastard own dual clutch transmission

Don't know what else to say apart from please please please take care on your DCTs, especially if you have sticking left switchgear. This morning I am furious, pissed off, angry but have collated my thoughts. It seems that the left switchgear is sending confusing signals to the gearbox - which in turn is giving random neutrals and applying totally random unexpected clutch behaviour

Gutted

Honda UK don't seem to want to take me seriously, so until they do I'll carry on being interviewed by MCN and will spread my experience far and wide"

[Cezarus]

Napisał fassi

Jesli guzik z DCT w nowej afryce sie blokuje, to wiedz ze cos sie dzieje

"CAUTION: DCT owners with sticky left switchgear PLEASE take note

Bike had its first service today (579 miles). I drew the dealer's attention to the sticking button on the left switchgear (the SET button that is used to control displayed fuel consumption / trip meters / ambient temp blah blah blah). Whilst outside showing them the problem, the DOWN select button packed up. I tell them I am not happy and fear the problem may spread to the paddle gear shift buttons (for non DCT riders the gear shifters are part of the same switch set)

Dealer services bike. Just an oil dump, oil filter and another filter for the DCT. Dealer tells me that the left hand switchgear is full of water. I ride in any weather, and on Wednesday that meant through foot deep floods. This IS an Africa Twin - that shouldn't have happened. Dealer logs a case with Honda, new left switchgear on it's way from Brussels to be fitted on Monday under warranty. Cool. I'll live without worrying about fuel consumption for a few days

Dealer test rides it after servicing it, I pay, gives me keys. Get out on the A420 for the 15 mile ride home - bike seems fine, although a bit more vibey than before, plus they gave me back the ludicrous amount of throttle free play. I ride it in a spirited fashion using a combination of it's full auto mode (DRIVE) and SPORTS 3, manually intervening to drop cogs using the paddle shifter upon corner entry. Bwaaarp Bwaaaarp Bwaaaaarp loving it

Ride into the town I live. It's busy. It's school kick out time and the roads have parked cars everywhere, people everywhere. Old boy coming towards me in a big Merc so I stop and wave him through. At this point I have the bike in Drive mode - it forces first gear on me when stopped, I have the option to select neutral but don't. In this situation the DCT acts like a twist and go effectively

Old boy passes me, I apply a light and constant throttle position - we pull away. (normally in this mode the bike short shifts up the box at about 1800rpm - it's ridiculously mild and at 35mph is usually already up into 5th). So we pull away as usual, and at about 5-10mph the revs suddenly go wild - HIGH - right up near the redline (but not banging off the limiter) - as if it found a false neutral and then of it's own accord dumps the clutch! Not it's usual beautifully smooth clutch work, it DUMPED the clutch. I was totally out of control, up on the back wheel in the middle of town, just missed a parked car - not knowing that the fuck was going on. Manage to get it under control and didn't run anybody over. Shit me right up. Badly

Once I'd calmed down and turned the bike off, I nursed it to a safer place and tried to replicate the issue. I felt bad. I thought it was my error. I can confirm that the same thing occurred a second time, only this time I was ready for it. It finds 'false' neutrals and is highly dangerous because I have no actual control of the clutch like on a manual bike!

If I had a pillion on the back we would have looped the thing in the middle of town - without question. Oh how I wish I had had my GoPro on

Don't want it anymore, don't want to ride it. Utterly dangerous. I have spoken to Honda UK - WHO WILL GET BACK TO ME IN THREE WORKING DAYS - despite the fact that this is currently Europe's best selling bike and almost 50% of buyers are opting for the the very cleer, very unpredictable got a mind of it's bastard own dual clutch transmission

Don't know what else to say apart from please please please take care on your DCTs, especially if you have sticking left switchgear. This morning I am furious, pissed off, angry but have collated my thoughts. It seems that the left switchgear is sending confusing signals to the gearbox - which in turn is giving random neutrals and applying totally random unexpected clutch behaviour

Gutted

Honda UK don't seem to want to take me seriously, so until they do I'll carry on being interviewed by MCN and will spread my experience far and wide"

Nowa Afrykańska Furia

[miro&afryka]

nazwijmy ją roboczo "dziki guzik"

[Grzechu2012]

może dopada tylko poszczególne rejony globu ?

[QrczaQ]

Napisał consigliero

Ja bym tylko zmienił słowo asfalty , na drogi , nawet takie na których być może kiedyś był asfalt





I nagle wyjeżdżasz z lasu , umęczony a tutaj nówka asfalt

Z tego lasu umeczony?czym
Wygląda na przyjemną przejażdżkę.

[QrczaQ]

Napisał consigliero

Myślę że się mylisz. Myku dobrze pisze , to jest inna liga. Weźmy mój przykład , mnie się podoba Africa , ale na moim etapie przygody motocyklowej , traktuję go jako motocykl jednoosobowy. Z tego powodu nigdy w moim kręgu zainteresowań nie był 800 GS , już bardziej jego słabsza wersja , oczywiście jako sprzęt do jazdy samotnej. Myślę też że po nasyceniu rynku w pierwszym roku sprzedaży AT , następny rok już nie będzie tak rewelacyjny pod względem sprzedaży . LC jest odpowiedzią na wyśrubowane normy i chęcią przejęcia następnej grupy, szczególnie młodszej części motocyklistów, temu służą też imprezy GS Trophy które mają swój cel marketingowy.
Pożyjemy zobaczymy co będzie dalej . Z mojej strony , mam tylko nadzieję i życzyłbym tego wszystkim aby AT była tak odporna na upadki jak mój GS , nie każdy jest w stanie jeździć i się nie wywracać .
Fajnie byłoby gdyby po powrocie z wycieczki , gdy motocykl legł na widocznej stronie , opierając się na kufrze , po podniesieniu , skręceniu lusterka , wygrzebaniu ziemi i kamyków z gmoli tak się prezentował .


Argument o przesiadce z GS na AT może też mieć pewien wpływ na zamieszanie na rynku , jednak jak napisałem wcześniej , w ciągu roku wszystko powinno się wyjaśnić i dopiero wtedy będzie można wróżyć coś więcej

Oczami wyobraźni, widzę dramat podczas podnoszenia GS, kelner wygrzebujący kamienie z gmoli. Miny klientów Residance9 popijących cappuccino na tarasie.